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Title: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on December 07, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
Hi,

Thanks for putting up the calendar for next year, good to see Wombwell on the list.

Just wondering why Aldershot is not on the calendar, as it has been quite well supported club racing wise in the past..

Sorry, I am not on facebook, so I cant post on there.

Cheers


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: JJ on December 09, 2017, 05:23:21 PM
Yes

Thanks for sorting the dates out.

It will be interesting running with the 5th circuit guys for the Halifax and Mendip meetings. Lets hope they keep the rain away at Mendip !!


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on December 09, 2017, 07:38:04 PM
Are we running with the mobile track polishing machines  then ?


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Awynn on December 12, 2017, 11:46:46 AM
Are the 2018 dates and venues finalised? I need to start booking holidays to suit.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on December 12, 2017, 04:46:27 PM
Found them on the BRCA website Bike Section.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: JJ on December 15, 2017, 10:58:14 AM
Copied from the BRCA website
We are running with the 5th Circuit guys for Halifax and Mendip

2018 Calendar Dates for 5th Circuit & Bikes

BRCA Bikes National Round 1 - 18th March @Wombwell

BRCA Bikes National Round 2 - 8th April @ADUR

BRCA 5C     National Round 1 - 29th April @ Wombwell

BRCA Bikes National Round 3 - 20th May @Cotswolds

BRCA 5C     National Round 2 - 26th May @ Craigavon

BRCA 5C     National Round 3 - 27th May @ Craigavon

BRCA 5C      National Round 4 - 17th June @ Halifax
BRCA Bikes National Round 4 - 17th June @ Halifax

BRCA 5C      National Round 5 - 22nd July @ Mendip
BRCA Bikes National Round 5 - 22th July @ Mendip

Festival of Speed - 25/26/27 August @ Brookland (5c & Bikes)

BRCA Bikes National Round 6 - 23rd September @Brooklands (Also Section AGM Saturday eve)

BRCA 5C     National Round 6 - 29th September @ Brooklands (Also Section AGM Saturday eve)

BRCA 5C     National Round 7-  30th September @ Brooklands

Dez Chand Memorial GP   6th October     @Cotswold   

So looks like I will have to decide what to run, Stockbike, Superbike, Sidecar, Nitro or 1/5th Mini ??

Bet it will cost me more to run the FG Mini

Such fun !!

States Registration will be started on 01-01-2018 9:00 am for the Bike meetings


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on December 15, 2017, 01:03:19 PM
Thanks JJ,

Sorry if I missed something, but I dont recall it being mentioned that we would be sharing meetings with 1/5th Circuit cars, when we discussed next year at Cotswolds, or it being a proposal for the AGM...

Would somebody from the comittee please be able to explain how we ended up sharing the meetings (in the interests of Collaboration, Strategy, Intra-organization etc as per the graphic on the BRCA website !), and also how the weekend would actually work especially Sundays.

Personally I liked our relaxed quiet (save for a few Nitro's) meetings, they will be rather different with Cars buzzing around all day...

Thanks,
Darren.



Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Awynn on December 17, 2017, 07:39:48 PM
So ignoring (if only you could) the constant noise headache machines and including sat practice...?

2018 Calendar Dates for 5th Bikes


BRCA Bikes National Round 1 - 17/18th March @Wombwell

BRCA Bikes National Round 2 - 7/8th April @ADUR

BRCA Bikes National Round 3 - 19/20th May @Cotswolds

BRCA Bikes National Round 4 - 16/17th June @ Halifax

BRCA Bikes National Round 5 - 21/22nd July @ Mendip

Festival of Speed - 25/26/27 August @ Brookland (5c & Bikes)

BRCA Bikes National Round 6 - 22/23rd September @Brooklands (Also Section AGM Saturday eve)

Dez Chand Memorial GP   6/7th October     @Cotswold   


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Alan Leighton on December 18, 2017, 02:20:53 AM
Hi Everyone,

sorry for the delay in responding.
Ok, firstly... we have a calender that it's balanced around the Uk with a new Track and covering geographically over the year. The process of arranging the National calender and meeting as well as booking in process is the main function of the commitee and the running of the section and decisions are made as such. We have done really well working with the support of the clubs to get balance with dates, which has eased the pain and to get out on time. For the meeting to where both Bikes and 5th on-road section join for two meetings.
this came about as theses section are small in numbers and do not generate enough suitable income to servive as vaible meetings. So, as a trial, and to work together to support clubs we are going to run these two meetings. Now, As these are National events for a British Championship we do need to be operating to such a standard. This doesn't mean it will be any less fun on the weekend and until out numbers improve by all working together to promote our racing we may have to share more meetings to be cost effective. Yes... it will be different  and make a change but it's a National series and WE need to survive.
 The rules are being finished and going the printers and ALL information will be posted on the Main BRCA website. ALso all the information required on booking in, Classes and registration of motors.

Further information and questions use either use the BRCA ticket system on you Member profile menu or Facebook if you have it.

Happy Christmas Everyone. ;D ;D ;D

Alan
Bike section Chairman


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: symon on December 18, 2017, 08:39:14 PM
Hi
So as a section are we worse off financially,and with such low attendance from previous years that it was necessary to go down this road....or was this purely just a trial??.........if it is just a trial,was it discussed at the AGM.....or at any of the nationals?

Thank you


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: ScaryFast on December 19, 2017, 06:04:17 PM
Has any thought been given to how this will actually work?  Do the cars guys run to the same format as us on qualifying and finals?  If not can the software manage two different formats on the same day?  Do we know how much time we will need to allow on race day to fit the required qualifying heats and finals for each class?  Defined practice times on Saturday or just a free for all? Etc etc


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on December 20, 2017, 02:37:54 PM
Personally I'm not a lover of nitro mainly because of the noise (although I believe the large scale use a different format motor) and one of the attractions of the Bike meetings is the smaller numbers attending resulting in a very informal atmosphere National Meeting.

I also didn't realise as a Section we were struggling to survive.

It will be interesting to read the comments from Halifax before booking the Mendip weekend. Hopefully things will work out to everyone's satisfaction.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mario24 on December 20, 2017, 05:45:09 PM
I have read somewhere that both sections pay the going rate and the club receives double revenue for the meeting, can someone confirm if this is correct or not please, if both sections pay half then that is cost effective but if both pay the normal rate I fail to see how this benefits either section as the only gain is to the host club.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on December 21, 2017, 09:14:46 AM
You are correct, the comment is included in Alan's announcement (copied below)


"Alan Leighton Chairman Bike Section " I have spent many years in the BRCA and we are all about trying to give back to the clubs, our numbers have been very steady over the last few years in the bike section and we are really only using half the available time when we run our nationals, after speaking with Darren (Darren Newton 5C Chairman) it became apparent that if our calendars could work together we could free up an extra day at clubs and offer double revenue for the day we are there"


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: JJ on February 09, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
Current status of who's racing for round 1

Plenty of places, apart from Sidecar which has two entries making it the biggest class ATM !!!

Available Classes
Class Type   Price   Available
MotoGPE 10.5 Blinky          50
Moto2 17.5 Blinky              49
MotoGPN                          49
Sidecars                           48

I have booked a hotel for Saturday, bit cold for camping in March me thinks


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mark Plested on February 09, 2018, 05:12:56 PM
Thanks for the update JJ. Looks like I better hurry up and put my entry in before all the places go.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mark Plested on February 17, 2018, 02:41:48 PM
Just entered Wombwell on BRCA site. Was surprised to find that had to enter details of the models for class I was not entering as well as the one I was!  :o


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: JJ on February 21, 2018, 03:28:27 PM
Yes Mark.
I had the same confusion. Raised a support Ticket and the reply confirmed this is the current solution for the Bike section to allow the classes we have in a single entry.

If you look at other section entries, like 12th circuit, they have separate entry for each class. Maybe it will change to that format in the future.

I also noted that lots of info for each class, but not the transponder number to help race control ? Guess its done for PR info not for race control.

Looking forward to racing bikes on a new track, last time at Wombwell for me was 1/8th Buggy racing with a Picco powered Garbo Gepard!!


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mark Plested on February 21, 2018, 06:20:04 PM
Thanks for the explanation Martin. Looking forward to Wombwell, I think the last time I went was 98 with PB Diamond


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on February 26, 2018, 11:10:05 PM
Anyone planning on attending Rd1 at Wombwell, please book in on the BRCA website before 3 March cut off point. Details are on Facebook, but I know some don't use that, so please post here if having questions or difficulties.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Graham Clarke on February 27, 2018, 10:32:10 PM
To all
Thanks for the last 18 years
I think the bikes are great fun. But for me some people in the
Section have pushed  the old bike crowed to far.

I'm Not going to answer any questions on the way it's gone
This is my thoughts and mine alone.
So all the best to my very good friends.

By the way no more come backs . Not untill things change.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Fred Martin on February 28, 2018, 09:13:26 AM
The Committee was voted in and are entitled to run the section as they see fit.
But this does not mean I agree  with the way things seem to be going.

What did I want as a bike racer, to race bikes with a group of like minded  people in a low key manner.

As bikers are a few and wide spread, meetings at various circuits was the only way out, and it got called a National Championship.

So why not hire circuit as a group and call it a Bike Gathering or something like that?, independently or as a BRCA Bike Section event.



Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: symon on February 28, 2018, 03:48:17 PM
Yes sadly,we have a few people in the section who's only interest lies with themselves and not the section......and they seem to want to manipulate things to get there way...very underhand......one of many incidents,when they bring one national meeting last year, down to the level of ganging up on the race director over a minor incident on track,who then threatens to quit the position there and then....which ive never seen in all the years ive been racing bikes.......you know your in trouble,if these are the sort of people in the section now.........


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on March 01, 2018, 03:14:24 PM
I'm very hopeful that we'll have race meetings even if we can't get to a national.

As Fred has said, we are also able to have meetings without calling them a "National Meeting". Whether this is part of a Club Day or as a unique meeting. Aldershot particularly have had a strong following, hopefully that will continue, Cotswold Club are open to Bikes (subject to numbers) Mendip should not be forgotten as a very approachable club in the past. Gary Simmons would I'm sure forward any requests to the Mendip Committee.

Please, don't interpret this as being an alternative to the Nationals or outside of the BRCA, we are all BRCA members.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: neal on March 01, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
Me and Peter will be up for a few club meeting this year, first one we can do is Sat April 15th at Cotswold . who's up for this one .


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on March 02, 2018, 08:23:08 AM
Neal
You do mean Sunday 15th don't you 😀😀

And
Yes I'm up for that ( will and to Moto 5 group if that's ok)

Don't know who moderates on here but can we move to club page please


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: neal on March 02, 2018, 11:54:57 PM
Sorry,  Sunday 15th 


















Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on March 04, 2018, 04:52:11 PM
So we now have until the 10th March to book in Wombwell Rd1 at the 25 original fee.
From our Chairman-

'Booking in cut-off is 7 days before the meeting at 25 entry fee.

During the seven days you may still book in up to 6pm on the Friday before the meeting at 30 late entry fee.

Really looking forward to going back to Wombwell after all these years, still got memories of sliding out of that fast corner onto the straight 8)


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mark Plested on March 15, 2018, 06:30:05 PM
Sorry to say, due to illness in the family I am unable to go to Wombwell this weekend. Hope you all have fun, and look forward to seeing everyone at Adur.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: matt book on April 02, 2018, 05:53:41 PM
Due to family illness I now can't go to 7-8th April BRCA bike Nationals Round 2 ADUR and yes I cancelled BRCA Registration for event ADUR Bike Nationals 2018 Round 2  .See you all the next one Cotswolds


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on April 03, 2018, 07:52:45 AM
Hi,
I have tried to book in for Adur from my phone, but it says entries are closed...
Anyone have any ideas ?
Cheers,
Darren


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Andy Carless on April 03, 2018, 12:24:40 PM
Hi Darren

It looks like the cut off date says .    "Cut off date 31-03-2018 10:00 pm"

So I suppose technically you can't now enter  :) It might be worth emailing a bike contact on the BRCA website to see if this is the case.

Cheers Andy


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on April 03, 2018, 05:22:54 PM
Hi Darren

Think the only way you will get a response is through the "BRCA ticket system"

Everything needs to be done by the rules, and when you find out let the rest of us know on Moto 5 as well.

Andy please change your avatar titles, you know you'll only upset people
(there should be a smiley face here but there not working for me)




Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Andy Carless on April 03, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
It's a smiley on mine Roy :-)


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mark Plested on April 03, 2018, 06:18:36 PM
Currently BRCA entry form for Adur says cut off date 6th April. They changed it a few days ago. So should be able to enter using the standard form.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on April 03, 2018, 07:00:21 PM
Hi,
Thanks for the replies,
So it seems to be open now, but it wants to charge 35.00 (including late fee)
Is that correct, I thought it would be 30.00 ?
Cheers


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on April 03, 2018, 07:03:21 PM
Darren you don't half make me laugh

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on April 03, 2018, 07:05:45 PM
Happy to help  ;D


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Darren J on April 03, 2018, 08:44:21 PM
All done now, for 30.00

Let's hope the weather is good..


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Karl Boak on April 05, 2018, 11:47:25 AM
Hi all,

I'm making the trip to Adur for the first time, can anyone fill me in on the facilities please?

I've picked a few bits up from FB but for mine and anyone else's benefit I have a few q's:-

1) Are there pits and are they covered? If we pit from our cars (like Aldershot) how close to the track would we be?

2) Where do we start Nitro bikes? Any restriction of running times?

3) What do we have in terms of food on hand, pubs for Saturday night within walking distance or are we BBQing? Food for Sunday breakfast/during the day?

5) Where do we camp?

If this has been covered elsewhere, apologies...  ::)

Cheers

Karl


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on April 05, 2018, 07:12:40 PM
Hi Karl;,

going by the last time I was there -
1) there is a car park / pitting area but need to walk about 15m to the track. There are a few benches trackside that could be nabbed for nitro bikers, but no covered pits or rostrum.
2) AFAIK there are no nitro restrictions.
3) Bring your own food and drinks for the track, evenings there is a few food pubs we go to. There are a couple of McDs in town also (breakfast)
5) Camp in pitting area.

Hope it helps!


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on April 06, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
Karl

Sent a picture on messenger, with along with John's notes should help.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: JJ on April 06, 2018, 10:28:41 AM
The Adur club website shows layout. Camping is show in the field, but last time campers and tents were inside the fence for the pitting area. Suggest call the club for info.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: matt book on April 06, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
Just saying I my  cancelled  Adur on the Brca online booking but do it get a refund and as I said earlier Family illness because  mum still ill in bed there's no chance I can go I would like to but that's life mum's first


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Mark Plested on April 06, 2018, 07:35:38 PM
Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your mum, hope she gets well soon.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on April 08, 2018, 07:35:05 PM
Big big thanks to the Adur club, with Gavin and Steve looking after us in the best possible way this weekend. Although weather was a bit iffy, it brought out the concentration and skill needed, for most drivers anyway! Personally, nitro wise, I had great fun, the mostly dry track on Saturday was great to test on and the full wet conditions on Sunday was quite enjoyable. And quite happy that all the nitros got through qualifying with no water problems (apart from wet air filters!). Unfortunate for Karl, who was really on the pace, to have a non water related glitch putting him out of the last final.
Congrats to Neal Vater in Superbike, Alex Wynn in stock and Martin in sidecar.
And just wanted to say that all the hard work, preparation, stress (and distress!) Put into this National series, is much appreciated. Alan Leighton.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Karl Boak on April 10, 2018, 12:34:47 PM
Well what can I say about Adur, I'd never made the trek down before, so was very upbeat having arrived late on Saturday and only managed a quick run round on a damp track but first impressions were good, I loved the track and the location, my freshly rebuilt engine was running fine and all was good in the world!

Unfortunately Sunday was not the dry day we hoped for and one thing after another meant my racing did not go my way either, I still haven't got to the bottom of my radio problems but think I have a couple of servos that are failing rather than any water related issues.

The wet track was very much a leveler and running in the rain was very tricky but so rewarding when you got it right, it was great to see so many braving the conditions and looking great in the photos that have been posted, some of the close ups John managed to get look fab!

Special mention has to go to Alex, who had massive problems with the rain and electrics but kept working hard to fix the esc issues he had and all this hard work paid off with his first win!  Well done that man!   ;) What was that special ratio of rain water to WD-40 in that bag again?  :o

It was great to see everyone and catch up after what seems an age without any racing! Thanks to everyone that kept positive and made the meeting great and those that put in the hard working behind the scenes too.

So normally the story would end but having packed up and headed off I hit the M25, all was fine for the best part of 20mins before I broke down, I soon found out that the M25 is not a nice place to sit waiting to be rescued but cutting a long story short I got home at around 4am with the van running again but rather fatigued to say the least!  :(   I hope you all made it home safe and sound???

Roll on Cotswolds and some sunshine please!   :D

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/872/26491283707_5d816d6a00_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GmWKGP)IMG_3395 (https://flic.kr/p/GmWKGP) by Dangerbus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/16875632@N08/), on Flickr


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Roy Davies on April 10, 2018, 01:11:33 PM
Karl,
What a report 👍only sorry you didn't get the running you deserved.
4am finish and then work, that is commitment.
Let's hope Cotswold is totally without incident and you can have another great weekend.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on April 11, 2018, 07:32:50 PM
That's a sad picture Karl. Sorry to hear you had a nightmare journey. She does have a habit of breaking down at the worst time though (Rotterdam on the ferry?!!).

Ken and I stopped off Sunday night at a travelodge, but Monday morning traffic on the M25 in the rain - utter misery :( I wonder if there is ever a good time to be on that stretch of hell.

Yes, you took to the track straight away, almost like you'd been before ;) and the bike was looking and sounding sweet. Shame about the glitch, it could have been close in the final..
See you at Cotswold!


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Awynn on April 13, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
Special mention has to go to Alex, who had massive problems with the rain and electrics but kept working hard to fix the esc issues he had and all this hard work paid off with his first win!  Well done that man!   ;) What was that special ratio of rain water to WD-40 in that bag again?  :o

I don't usually have water/esc issues but it was the first time running that motor in the wet, turns out the sensor board no likey wet and my trusty waterproof esc can't run sensorless so quickly slapped in an esc that could run sensorless but wasn't waterproofed so I balooned it up but I rushed to make my race and failed to seal the neck of the balloon so it filled with water and wouldn't play ball for the next race   :-[
I think it was about a 50/50 WD40/water emulsion that ended up working the best  ;D

What happened to your van, water get in your real electrics too?


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Awynn on April 13, 2018, 06:45:15 PM
Ken and I stopped off Sunday night at a travelodge, but Monday morning traffic on the M25 in the rain - utter misery :( I wonder if there is ever a good time to be on that stretch of hell.

Oh god no, you do not want to be anywhere near the M25 on a Monday morning! (or any weekday morning...) Best option is to do what I did, stay in Travelodge but set a 3AM alarm and head home then, still the odd bit of traffic even then, but otherwise a nice clear run, best time of 'day' to travel anywhere near London  :P


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on April 13, 2018, 07:55:14 PM
Oh god no, you do not want to be anywhere near the M25 on a Monday morning! (or any weekday morning...) Best option is to do what I did, stay in Travelodge but set a 3AM alarm and head home then, still the odd bit of traffic even then, but otherwise a nice clear run, best time of 'day' to travel anywhere near London  :P

Yup. We found out mornings ain't good. But 3am? :o  I would have lost my licence for sure, if breathalysed!


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: Karl Boak on April 17, 2018, 10:17:08 AM
Yes John I was gutted how my weekend went and breaking down is one thing but when I can't fix it that's so frustrating. Ah I remember the incident on the ferry but that was just a simple fix compared to this one Lol!

Alex, it was a little black box that failed, the amplifier for the electronic ignition, the worst thing about it was that at stupid o'clock when the AA bloke finally arrived he help me diagnose the problem and immediately said, 'I'm not going to have one of those on the van, so I'll book the low-loader' so there was me looking forward to a snooze on the way home. But low and behold he emerged from his van with a small cardboard box with a new amplifier inside! What are the chances!  >:(

I'm really looking forward to the Cotswold's, hope we all have some close racing, but do I trust the van to get me there???  ::)



Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on May 21, 2018, 07:02:11 PM
Cotswold Rd 3
Well that must be the nicest weather I have ever experienced at a bike national. The Cotswold track is certainly a top bike track and it was great to see a lot of excellent driving here. Great track / racing / people / weather. What more do you need in life! Personally I struggled a little with the nitro bike all weekend, so was more than happy to take a 1st and 2nd and had a fun race long tussle with Karl Boak who got the equal but opposite result. And Congrats to Peter Vater for the overall moto2 win. Big thanks to the Cotswold club and our series sponsor MotoGB.


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: JJ on May 23, 2018, 10:39:01 PM
Yes a great weekend. Finally getting to run the KP10 nitro, coming third in the final was a bonus. Looking forward to the sweeping curves of Halifax


Title: Re: 2018 BRCA Nationals
Post by: John Veal on May 24, 2018, 09:15:35 PM
You did well with that old bike Martin. I can't imagine what you'd be like with a new RG!
Yes, Halifax is going to be ace, I can't wait.